relationships between i.c.e., et cetera. it s multilayered. dana: it is indeed. what do you think about the fourth century comments? jesse: he s not using leeches. greg: yet. jesse: a lot of things are useful that have been used for very long time from medieval times. shackles, blades, men on horseback, prisons, shields. those things are useful because they work. greg: some of your favorite things. jesse: some other things in gutfeld s basement. the president likes to use the analogy of the wheel. it s effective, just like the walls are effective. i don t like how nadler is saying that the president is going to live tomorrow night. the president has told the truth on the caravan from the beginning. he said it was mostly men, not a bunch of women and children. the men were looking for money, not asylum.