trillion in debt and about one thing i think there s agreement. we have been driven into debt by recession, entitlements and also military spending. it seems to me that result this week in the 26th congressional district where one candidate touched the third rail by talking about the ryan plan, guarantees that nothing is going to get done relative to entitlement reform between now and the 2012 race. am i seeing this clearly? you probably are. i think you have to separate what was in the ryan plan with ch as we just outlined, as ezra did, is a voucher plan as opposed to something let radical and involves reigning in the cost of medicare a little bit. you had ruts cuts in the cost of medicare that republicans opposed and i would say demagogued at the time. a lot of the same republicans support it. there is agreement and progress in the last year. i think on the broader point of what the ryan plan means in 2012, you mention the special report and i thought i have seen
campaigning this weekend. i might be wrong. have a great weekend. me too. thank you. i appreciate you being here very much. we heard that democrats are demagoguing their budget plan and scaring seniors by saying the plan will end medicare but that is essentially what the plan will do so can democrats be demagoguing when they are telling the truth? you re watching hardball only on msnbc. [ female announcer ] this is not a prescription. this is stacy. who runs circles around asthma. and dan. he never lets high cholesterol get him too low. and amy with her arthritis well in hand. they go to walgreens. where their pharmacist not only refills prescriptions but gives advice. immunizations. and health tests. staying on top of your health starts right in your neighborhood. walgreens. there s a way to stay well.
development. pea partiers who love both women and democrats who love the idea of president obama running against either one ever them. it is hard to know whether democrats were demagoguing healthcare with this ad. you can call that one pay back for death panel. but when republicans claim that democrats are demagoguing their plan by saying they would end medicare as we know it, guess what? the dems are right, it would end medicare as we know it. that may be why the gop is so sensitive about the issue. on this memorial day weekend we remember those who died in defense of our country. we will debate whether it is time to get out of afghanistan and david versus goliath a high school tanging on louisiana school board for teaching cree acism in public schools. we will meet the david that story. let me finish tonight with