damning. so i want to now play a bad guy. mr. taylor, mr. ambassador, who d you vote for in 2016? i didn t vote in 2016. he didn t vote? i don t know. this is the kind of questions that the democrats are going to have to be prepared for and witnesses are going to have to be prepared for. this is serious, serious matter. i like this, congresswoman. i love having you on the show. according to the latest nbc wall street journal poll a majority of americans are aware of the impeachment investigation, 79% of the american people, just about 4 out of 5 say they ve seen coverage of trump s july phone collin which he asked the ukrainian leader to do him a favor. so it seems to me the idea of what are you really going to accomplish with more hearings if
president s former national security advisor john bolton. i m joined by jackie spear and the former chief of staff to house speaker nancy pelosi. you re all over the place with these hearings but i guess my fear is can you keep the train moving or will the republican harassment tactics or democrats who get a little too excited about other opportunities move the focus from what the president did, trade public trust for personal interest? keep the focus, can you do it? oh, i think there s no question we will do that. he abused the office of the president and he placed us at risk for national security, and those two efforts by him created a situation where soliciting which is illegal, soliciting a
the members of congress in private interviews. you don t see any of that. i can just tell you in the private interviews there is never any of what you saw thursday. it is one hour on the republican side, one hour on the democrat side, which is why you re going to see the next two dozen interviews done privately. the private ones always produce better results. you know, there he is trey gowdy describing how you do a really good set of investigative hearings if you want the truth, if you don t want a show, you know? and now he s saying it s taped. and yrm that was going to be the president s outside lawyer if there hadn t been these rules prohibiting him from serving as a lobbyists, then he actually would have been a member of trump s legal team. it s hard for me to hate anybody, but lindsey with his tail wagging the last couple of days, he s been called into service, he s done it, and grabbing people. it s like remember the card
check things with the labor unions? everyone wants to condemn the house hearings now and as we went on-air tonight 46 members of the 53 person republican caucus in the u.s. senate, six holding out. doesn t that make a little bit of a statement either way? and this is one of those things, you better have everybody sign before you take any of it public because the game has never been about getting to two thirds of the senate. that s obviously not possible. donald trump is not going to be moved from office by a senate vote. barring some direct divine intervention on the mind of the republican senate caucus. but the question is does donald trump get 54-55 votes for removal? where s mit romney a majority vote. and if lindsey graham gets a majority vote lined up, that s alarming. to them. so i don t know why he s doing this. you be to have everybody there
that s really bad. so you saw this hilarious thing where people were tweeting and taking pictures and two hours later saying actually that was my staff, i signaled t staffer did the tweet for me. like they re on a destroyer? that was obviously untrue. but as jason said there are some realities here, this is morale building exercise. this is all going to be fully public very, very soon and all this will be forgotten. we re going to get to that in the rest of the show which is how democrats can hold hearings where you actually have, you know, a smart counsel that actually keeps the focus for a half-hour or two or two hours instead of everybody doing their five minute pop ups. jill colvin, thank you for having us on. jason johnson, always great to have you and david frum, my republican friend. coming up as republicans continue to howl at the moon over the process i hate that word of the impeachment