when that would start, december or january depending on when the house impeaches. do you think that is the right strategy, or this because he doesn t really have the votes to dismiss? no, i think it s probably the right strategy. i mean, you re going to have more hearings here in the house. we don t know which way they re going. president trump sent them off in his own direction on friday, so i think, ultimately, you re going to need a trial in the senate at which in that trial there s going to be an issue on the table that the democrats in the house are never going to discuss, and that was hunter biden s role in ukraine and burisma. there are some details there that need to be opened up, and that will come out of a senate trial. and that could last all the way through january, and at the end of it the american people are going to have to make a judgment about what they think about all this. but they re only getting half the story with these house hearings. paul: yeah. ing that s a r
ever in 50 years of private law practice and i am being targeted by cnn because i am proving that you are corrupt in your coverage of the president all throughout this impeachment proceeding. what we re seeing coming out of these house hearings, this testimony, from inside trump s diplomatic core where they re worried about what giuliani has been doing, famously fiona hill, the president s top former russian adviser who thought what giuliani was doing in ukraine was, in fact, illegal. john bolton called apparently called it a deal. how does rudy giuliani s contact affect u.s. relations with its allies. we ll speak with a former ambassador next. how are you, baby?
what they want to establish, it is not a fair proceeding because adam schiff has a dog in the fight so to speak. he is the one who gets to decide what is relevant. if he were to example grant the request call hunter biden that would be an implicit admission that hunter biden had relevance to this inquiry which is something they have been fighting against. i wouldn t expect to see that but it is good that republicans are showing they have an alternative version of events. nelly ohr is an interesting choice on the list because she is tied to fusion gps which is the outfit that cranked out the steel dossier which is essentially discredited. she testified in house hearings.
she testified in house hearings, fusion gps had a source in the ukrainian legislature, and that gets you into the whole manafort ledger, the idea that the obama administration leaning on the ukrainians to investigate the trump campaign or investigate manafort. they are trying to establish they had an alternative version and democrats are not letting the public hear it. neil: i have heard even from republicans, even if there was a delay, holding back on ukraine, the president didn t get what he wanted on joe biden and his son hunter biden, the republicans, there is no there there, high crimes and misdemeanor, move on. that will be the raging debate.
substance of how the house democrats are going to conduct these public hearings, how they re going to conduct the articles of impeachment and how the judiciary committee moves through that. and the fact is that the democrats have kind of laid the groundwork for understanding how important it is to make that case and not do it in the way we usually watch house hearings, which is, a lot of us are on set wanting to bang our heads against the wall because it s a member of congress speaking for five minutes, five minutes, sometimes speechifying and not even asking questions. that s all gone now and the chairman is going to have 45 minutes. he can defer to staff, which oftentimes asks more direct, more blunt questions, and same with republican leader. and so the fact is that they re already thinking ahead about that, and it s all about trying as hard as they can to get public support behind this.