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republicans are for stability in medicaid, medicare, social security. these are promises to the american people and the only way to reform those policies in my view is by bipartisan negotiation. i don t think that s in the cards because i don t think we have a serious party to negotiate with. in senate democrats or president biden. i want to ask about your work as co-chair of the american hostage task force because ever since the release of brittney griner, many of your fellow republicans have been quite critical of that prisoner exchange of greiner for notorious arms dealer, viktor bout. your arkansas republican colleague called the trade shameful. he said it was a shameful early christmas kbgift to putin. on the other hand, i ve heard republicans including roger car z stens saying this is the best deal we could get. the only one on the table. how do you see it?
we set up this hostage task force in 2021. i did that with my friend, ted deutsche of florida. he represented the levinson family, another terrible situation. i had my own situation in arkansas with a family who we believe has been killed and incarcerated in syria. this is a way to help our members cope with the families. we have over 60 american families that are suffering. family member being held abroad this christmas. so my view is ambassador doing a good job. these are never easy and i always celebrate with an american coming home, but jake, look, i think we could do a better job not rewarding these bad countries for taking american hostages. iran, syria, russia, china, all are holding americans. we need to do a better job by not rewarding them so there s no incentive to take another american. you re not the only one i ve
it s a really awkward position for the u.s. government to be in. they want to bring home americans and it s not just paul. there are americans being held in china. there s lots of americans who are in similar positions, and each one of them requires something unique. i m not sure that america always has that cob concession available to bring those people home. representative stevens from michigan is whelan s congresswoman and co-chair of the new american hostage task force in the house. thank you for joining us. it s remarkable to me in a situation like this how gracious the family is being. i know this must be heartbreaking. they are happy for brittney griner. but they have been waiting so long. have you had a chance to talk to or be in touch with paul whelan s family and how are they doing? i have spoken to the family.