and she joins us now. senator, i ll start first with your understanding of where things stand right now in this back and forth. we have got a hostage taker who s saying that he s willing to blow up the economy and put millions of people out of work if he, kevin mccarthy, and the house republicans don t get to make a lot of very painful cuts in the budget. he claims to be physically responsible, cares about the increasing national debt, and yet they every time the president and other democrats like me, talk about bringing in more revenue as a way to reduce the national debt, he says no. he can t possibly do that. while this fight plays out in this moment of, we ve got somebody that s willing to take a hostage, willing to do a lot of damage to the economy. willing to destroy the name around the world. and they claim that it s physical responsibility, that
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dial had died behind bars before bobbi was even charged. instead her attorney told the jury, dial had said or written about 100 times, that he kidnapped bobbi parker. bobbi did not go with you willingly? oh, no. no. i was the hostage taker. and i ll probably live to regret it. then the defense try to put someone else on trial. warden jack cowley. jack cowley is an incompetent warden. defense attorney isaacs show the jury a psychological report written about dial three years before the escape. it described dial as dangerous with an extreme tally for manipulation. the report warned against letting dial and put his are around women, because he would inevitably begin to scheme. the head of security told jack cowley, you need to read the psychological report.
trump is literally exceeds some of the vitriol you hear from democratic elected officials. it is the hatred of their hostage taker. they hate him more than us who say the truth and see the truth and speak the truth. how has this impacted morale? what is it like inside fox news right now today? just imagine that you work there and you were a mid-level producer or something, and all of a sudden you have to hand over your private cell phone. that s where a lot of these messages came from, and that s why, you know, i think that the revelations we ve seen have been so extraordinary. these weren t company phones by and large. this is rupert murdoch, lachlan mourdock s personal phone. dominion scored a major legal victory over the summer that the judge allowed them to do that. why didn t they settle before that? that s when fox fired its last legal team and hired this new one.
just went 15 rounds to elect a house speaker. i think this is a real concern even for republicans in washington. i was there yesterday talking to them about this. you happened in 2011. i think the concern is this is they don t know what it is that republicans want. republicans don t even know fully exactly where they re willing to make these cuts. it s like negotiating with a, you know, a kidnapper or hostage taker and they don t have demands. you re not sure what you re supposed to give them. i thought biden s move was prudent to just say okay, what do you want? so which apparently the answer is um, let me get back to you. we ll see. okay. so the argument now, you think it sounds like it s a good idea to get rid of the debt ceiling. i think at some point we need to recognize the consequences of defaulting is so catastrophic that, you know, it s unfortunately a lesson we learn after the fact. i don t think it will happen this time.
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