it appeared she was cut, bleeding from the neck, as i say, and then another person outside the pub having cpr performed on her by the emergency services. if you re confused there by the banners on the top of the screen, that was off the bbc. british broadcasting corporation who have gone, you would expect, into rolling national coverage as we have here as well. just in to nbc news, at least 20 victims. 20 people wounded, taken to six different hospitals nap is according to the ambulance services coming out of london. we heard earlier from our lucy khavanov? our london bureau, the hospitals have gone boo lockdown. at least one in particular in lockdown, not necessarily out of the ordinary. one of the things authorities try to do, to confirm all victims are victims and none of the victims are attackers. i am joined by steve clemons. very grateful to have steve with us. the washington editor at large at the atlantic, msnbc news contributor. steve, i m old enough to