loop on cnn and msnbc. and stone, who was pardoned by president trump for lying to congress about the russia investigation, has been in and out of favor. but what he says there does seem to reflect the whole let s push and push and push and try to hang on to power, the whole attitude about it. a couple of things, howie. number one, they are trying to tell a story, horrific day, i m not going to make excuses for the speech, and i m not going to talk about anything that says t not so bad. i think it was a horrific day so, please, don t take anything i say to minimize how horrible that day was and how ill-advised giving the speech was. i m never going to defend that. but i will say this: they are looking to tell one side of the story. can you imagine if the impeachment a after the ukraine call was what democrats wanted to get out. it didn t mean what they were saying was incat, but there was no pushback from collins and others to say, listen, there s another side. for example, if i talk
story that is unnecessarily politicized on a topic that he clearly doesn t know anything about even if he, i guess, lived in florida at one point. howard: if you live in florida, you re an expert, i guess. politicization goes both ways. people being rescued, a lot of journalists were saying climate change, climate change. on the other hand, those attacking them were doing that but also for the other side. and scientists say you can t tie it to any individual storm, but here s what we know: waters are getting warmer, that feeds hurricanes, and the number of cat four and cat five hurricanes in the last 20 years in the u.s. about matches the number in the previous 40 years. but again, that doesn t mean that climate change is the sole source or, obviously, there were powerful hurricanes in the past before the movement against global warming. steve, stick around. next on mediabuzz, why television kept replaying pictures from the worst day of hurricane ian days after the storm moved on. an
almost as if there s a concern that people might tune out if they re not seeing the worst video. yeah, i would say this is a bigger problem than the first one, for sure. you know, this is a sense where we want to get people interested in the story when it s important. we want to give, to bring people story as it s happening, you know, in realtime. then you start to go do the second day s story, the third day s story and you still want people interested because there is, obviously, the search and rescues happening, but how do you keep people hooked. and the decisions being made, you know, in d.c. and new york newsrooms to keep that, the attention, keep the viewer hooked, that s when it starts verging into what kind of b with roll are we going to use, the most sensationalized way to do it, that s when you get a lot of that howard: yeah, it becomes just wallpaper, not just let s look at what happened on wednesday. phil keating, there was fascinating foot an on thursday of people being
yeah. it s really tough, i think, when journalism is the hardest, it s more important to really stick to principles, right? you re in a fast-moving story, it is, you re watching the devastation and there are, obviously, the death toll has been rising in florida. but, no, in those moments hay really need to avoid speculation, make sure even if it s the guests, they couch that to the audience and say this is not confirmed, we re not running with in the. it s even more important in those moments to not start wildly speculating and making people freak out even more than they might with what actually happened. howard: the death toll in florida now estimated to be 44. i m sure that will rise, but at the same time, the hundreds business and even, he said it s unconfirmed, really kind of changed the news cycle. one of the reasons is the storm missed tampa where everybody was forecasting it would hit. tampa, with st. petersburg, has a population of 650,000.
trump and jared kushner, then was going to announce their departure by tweet, but the general said that trump had to talk to them first and ultimately, of course, it didn t happen. trump denies this but, brian, this is part of the news of the book. so what i did, howie, when i saw what you wanted to talk about, i talked to someone extremely high up to the situation. obviously, kelly is the source of this story, and they went on to tell me that kelly never understood trump period. he s a guy who wanted to take the hill, go take the hill. he didn t understand the shades of trump and the way he went about things. for example, if there was a horrific thing, there was a rocket sent over the top of south korea. he would get his people in, he d go should we just bomb em? should we just forget about it? should we just ignore it? he said there s no way that this would, this was remotely true, number one. number two is there s no way he