the freedom that we have right now in america? wright, well, i was born in the soviet union and i can tell you the ex-russian community in places like new york are generally conservative, and there is a reason for that. once you have seen leftism and action, you do not want it anymore. i think in general, the red states can be confident that the people moving there want to share their policies, want to share their politics. sure, not everyone knows a thread on twitter, somebody moving to california and saying he was worried about the politics of florida where he was moving, so of course you are going to have people like that, but when i think your places like new york and san francisco and other big cities where homelessness is something that, you know, is ignored, shoplifting is something we don t talk about, burglarizing stores and homes is something we just completely, you know, go by the wayside and don t talk about that either, and all of these policies that we see in action in
state, a very attractive alternative to washington, oregon, and california. we had acceleration of the long-running tends to get these new factor of insane covid mandates that are really driving people out of some of these places. sean: phil, i think that is a great point because it is not just taxation, it is of the policies that lead to the quality of life that people have, otherwise people would be moving to washington, as well, but we see what we have in washington, horrible policies, crt, protests, homelessness, folks aren t moving there. karol come i want to go to you because when you look at people who come to america from places like venezuela and cuba, when they get here, they recognize the democrat policies, they are very similar to the policies that actually ruin their home country, right? so they vote republican. i am wondering when people leave places like california and illinois and new york and go to places like texas and florida, do they leave their bad policies that
who believe in the california model, the model they want for the whole country, that is everything in biden s bill back that her bill, this idea of having more and more government control, more government spending, more taxation, that is what people are trying to flee when you look at this domestic migration data. it is a little harder to flee when it happens at the national level, so you are absolutely right. i think we need to really make the case that there is a reason the red states are performing so much better economically and are so much more attractive than the blue states, and it is the triumph of a free market model over the government control model that the democrats push. sean: yeah, phil, if you take those policies of liberals and make them national, and ruin america, there is no other america out there for us to go. that is why it is so important that we save this country with great policies. i want to thank you both, phil and karol, for joining me tonight on angle, i
massive number but it has typically been about 400,000, 450,000 in recent years, so it is a big jump but it is on trend and an acceleration of what we were already seeing, and it has to do with a lot of lifestyle, quality-of-life issues. one of the chief among them is no income tax in places like tennessee, texas, and florida, and we have seen a very large influx of people, about 4 million people over the last decade have moved from income tax to nonincome tax states, but this was different this year. there were a lot of factors. i think crime was a factor but i think the covid policies are the biggest one and to me one of the most interesting things in the new numbers, sean, his washington state, a nonincome tax state that normally over the last decade has been gaining net migration of about 40,000 people a year, it was flat even, it was met even, and i think that is to go things, i think it is the crime problems in seattle and the crazy covid lockdown policies. you look next-door, id
roll back a set of policies under trump that were actually working to keep people from coming into our country? it makes no sense. today, about one out of every 150 people in this country came across illegally this year. we ve got 100,000 overdoses this last year. 100,000. one out of every 3,000 americans died of a drug overdose. we have drugs come across the border like crazy if your guy was down last month in yuma, and we ve got thousands of people coming across. some of them, there was a day i heard 4,000 people came across in one location through one open gate. one open gate. it is like, what is biden thinking? does he care about americans? is his first responsibility secure the border, if there s policies that work. i was down at the border, the border agent said, i ve had five presidents. every one of them had their ideas, but at least they had an idea of how to secure the