this is same competition of the court. dates back to onerous and oppressive regulatory framework started with the new deal. i ve been reading about this they re basically getting him because you can t be a producer and hand lettering. that is what he is. he is growing grapes and drying and packaging selling grapes. what is the government doing as charlie points out? they come in to say we re regulating you as form of price controls. but they slapped him with a $700,000 fine, which goes to your point harris. this is little guy. he is just trading to make it. i think he has a case. it is scary. say one quick thing, farmers get paid by federal government all the time to grow crops, not grow crops. they re complaining about government intrusion stop taking subsidies. advocates that the horn family deserves several hundred $100,000 in compensation. they set aside 30% of the crop in 2003 and 2004. that is when the fight started.