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lot of issues that are starting to tick back up. but something that karina said just very briefly here about the sanctions. she s absolutely right that these haven t bitten inside of russia actually on how those people are. and that s actually one of the places that we helped some people like go after and look at very closely. and helped them find ways to talk about that. to make the sanctions that were implemented, let s find ways to talk about them so that individuals can start to connect the dots between those sanctions and their life all right, jonathan teubner. thank you so much. i m sorry we are out of time. i would love to continue this conversation. hope we will. hope you ll come back on the show to discuss. jonathan teubner, karine orlova, really a appreciate it. we ll be right back. construct. construction. there is a crack. oh god are you kidding me?!

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