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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20151203 21:53:00

alert treating at least 21 victims of the attack. our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta is at arrowhead regional medical center, one of the local hospitals taking care of the victims at this hour. and, sanjay, you spoke with one er doctor who is also a volunteer s.w.a.t. member? that s right, jake. he does both. and i ll tell you, it may sound unusual, but it s becoming more common. a new kind of doctor, a sort of necessary type of doctor as he explained it to me because they go in very early, jake. in this case he got there even before other members of the s.w.a.t. team to try and take care of patients at the scene. as you well know, jake, it was an active scene. so they go in with both medical gear and as they call it tactical gear. handgu handguns, assault rifles in case he needed to protect himself. in addition to doing this work, taking care of patients at the scene, they spend time training

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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20151203 21:32:00

pairings in these kinds of cases, particularly where you have workplace grievance, even this hybridization that we ve talked about. however, we have seen this in younger people who will have these pairings. you get likeminded individuals who are mutually reinforcing each other s dysfunctional ideas, their grandiose thinking, need for notoriety, whatever the case may be, their sense of needing to get even. and if you get two like-minded individuals who happen to be in a relationship married, what end up happening is that secret becomes a very powerful bond. it becomes a closed system. and they re off and running because it becomes part of who they are, what they re going to become, and the organizing basis of their relationship. so it s not unheard of. it is rarer. and unfortunately it becomes a toxic pairing as we ve seen in this tragic case. but another thing that s so

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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20151203 21:55:00

medicine and in this case the s.w.a.t. team in order to do the job they have to do. it s so tragic that that s the kind of teaching this doctor finds himself doing. did he describe for you at all what it was like going into the chaotic scenes? yeah. he did, jake. quite a bit. as you might imagine just catastrophic the types of weapons this particular doctor was a doctor who is a veteran of the iran-iraq war. and he talked about the fact the same sort of munitions, the same caliber, the same velocity of bullets are the things he saw back in that war. i don t know that i should describe more than that, but you understand what i m saying here. they were patients who obviously were able to survive this, but these were very, very devastating injuries that he saw. but again, by being there early, even during an active situation he was probably able to help save lives that otherwise would have been lost. all right. a war zone in california. dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so

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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20151203 21:03:00

that he was in addition to being a devout muslim apparently radicalized at some point in the last couple years. for more on this radicalization and the ongoing investigation, let s go straight to cnn justice correspondent pamela brown who is on the ground in san bernardi bernardino. pamela, what specifically has the fbi discovered about farook s ties to potential terrorists? reporter: well, first of all, jake, my colleague evan perez speaking to his sources who tell him a working theory is that the gunman syed farook may have been radicalized. but i can tell you from folks i ve been speaking with investigators still very puzzled about this case. we know the fbi is still stepping in. and at this point still trying to determine whether this was a case of terrorism or a workplace dispute or perhaps a blend of both. fbi investigators are looking at

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