how is trump a liar with what we learned? well, we know for a fact because they denied this. hope hicks, when she was communications director, she came out and said, she stated from her own lips, that trump knew nothing about this payment. he knew nothing about mrs. mcdougal. he knew nothing about any payment that was made to her, quote, unquote hush money. we found out that was not true. we found out that donald trump and michael cohen, they negotiated this. they put this together. they may say it s a reimbursement to the national enquirer, but what we do know is donald trump lied about this. his white house lied about this. and, chris, let me just say this. we lived through eight years of barack obama when the drama that we had with barack obama was him ordering honey dijon mustard and wearing tan suits. my question to everyone watching is what if this was barack obama? we have not one playboy playmate but two. well, if trump had his way, we also would have had the president