we re not doing a wall. does anybody have any doubt that we are not doing a wall? i have never had so much support as i have in the last week over my stance for border security, for border control, and for, frankly, the wall or the barrier. so, this is where we re at with the two parties negotiating the ongoing government shutdown, seemingly in completely different worlds. let s discuss with my panel of experts. first of all, congresswoman, congratulations, you re the new chair of the congressional black caucus. yes. congratulations. yes, 55 members. that s wonderful. congratulations. thank you. we re happy and honored to have you here. how does this end? what is the way out of the morass here? well, i think the way out of the morass is for the president to do what he originally said he was going to do, which was he agreed to the bill that came out of the senate that was voted on unanimously that said we will fund the government. the government should have never shut