on and off again, especially in the national security and homeland security space. there s investigations that are ongoing, there s work that s being done, intelligence being collected, sources that are being worked, all sorts of things taking place that you can t just turn it on and off. the other thing is, there s a lot of mid-career folks in government who are going to think about leaving federal service. there s young people who are thinking about, well, maybe i won t go into federal service because it used to be more stable and now it s something that s unpredictable. there s just so many aspects on the national security side, on the homeland security side and as far as the long-term affects to the federal workforce that are going to outlive this shutdown and then the uncertainty of their potentially being another one just a few weeks from now. there s going to be people who are going to turn in their retirement papers and who are going to leave government service in the middle
pro-democratic, whether that s right or wrong. so in transit any one of those devices could have harmed anyone, let alone the fact that anyone opening up a package would have been harmed. i just want to say something about those procedures following on the homeland security side, the secret service. you know, there are an ex-president is always an ex-president. there is no private president obama and public president obama. so what you did see in place was the totality of security, whether it s access to mim physic him physically, access to him through cars. we don t want to say the system work because obviously this a scary day, but those layer defenses were absolutely essential given the threat matrix against former presidents as well as a sitting president. juliette, stay with us as we continue with this breaking story. multiple suspicious devices sent to cnn, to the clintons, to the
as you may or may not know i worked on the presidential transition team. it s a nonpartisan activity and i worked both on the state department cited after the election on the homeland security side. i think the executive order is the right thing to do and the reason for that is is actually forward-looking traders looking at the future and if isis loses its faith in iraq and syria tens of thousands of foreign fighters that have flowed in have to flow out and they are likely to flow to these countries which is why these countries are and they might go from there into western europe and united states and the means by which they would travel would be through the visa or refugee process so it s a proactive forward-looking reasonable step to take. arthel: by the way i did know that and that s why you are here and that s why i asked you that question. you see the protest and you have people when the executive order was signed and there are 11 of
america. we hear about these threats now. before we didn t hear a lot about them. we prevented them. the only one we haven hasan in rt hood. you hve to be0% successful and these people are trying all the time. i worry about homegrown islamist extremists terrorists because they are harder to detect. when they are overseas there s a lot of communication teen overseas and here that allows us to pick these things up. when this homegrown it is harder to detect. maybe we don t have quite the intelligence forces focused on homegrown as we do in afghanistan, pakistan, iraq, those parts of the world. so that worries me a lot. you talk about the homeland security side. let me switch, how do you think are doing in fighting the war on terror? i think we are doing pretty well. i am surprised that president obama has continued,