and, again, it is not about doctrine, not about substance, it is about governments, it is about how the place is run. what we have seen over the last eight years is that there have been a number of breakdowns that aren t just interm, but have created big public messes. in 2009, there was the rehabilitation of a holocaust denying bishop. last year, the massive vatican leak scandal, perceived mishandling of the child sex abuse scandals. when these bond goes off in rome, they have to pick up the pieces with their own local media, their own local faithful and frankly many of them are tired of it. no matter how you look at it, the outcome could not be bigger for the cardinals and more than 1 billion people who lean on the church as the center of their faith life. thank you very much. brooke, back to you in new york. looking at the live pictures here. not new york, atlanta. atlanta, no problem. people are beginning to really fill st. peter s square. it is a good point john makes, we