leaders set the tone of this nation. wait, did you just say we should abolish donald trump? intolerance. his tolerance for total ethical lapses, whether it s the epa or hhs, or elsewhere. this administration has set the tone. i went after joe arpaio. we sued him when i was the head of the civil rights division. i didn t try to abolish the maricopa county sheriff s office. we understood that the problem reied in the leadership of joe arpaio. and joe arpaio is now the former sheriff and the current sheriff has worked very hard to change the culture. we need a change in leadership at the top levels of this country. we need to elect democrats so that we can make sure that our values of inclusion and opportunity are values that are now holding score, holding sway in the united states. think that s the most important thing that we can do is win elections in november, so that we can reform i.c.e., so that we can reform the epa, so that we
i.c.e.? leaders set the tone of this nation. donald trump did you just say we should abolish his tolerance for total ethical lapses whether it s the epa or else where, this administration set the tone. i went after joe arpio. we sued him when i was the head of the civil rights division. we understood that the problem relied in the leadership of joe arpio and now the former sheriff and the current sheriff has worked very hard to change the culture. we need a change of leadership at the top levels of this country. we need to elect democrats so we can make sure that our values of inclusion and opportunity and our values are now holding score. holding sway in the united states. i think that s the most important thing that we can do is win elections in november so that we can reform i.c.e. and
millers of the white house seem to be holding sway. i think one thing that is consistent, maggie, based on what you re saying, is he knows what he wants. he wants it to be harder, a lot harder for people to come to this country. there are certain things he wants, and that is one of them. he wants to be praised and not criticized. he does something he thinks will quell those criticizing him. it s people on this show, people on msnbc, on his twitter feed. he signs the eo. the noise just doesn t go away. so he digs in harder. this is the first time that he has been able to sort of magically spin things and convince people they are not really seeing what they re seeing. this is the first time he has not been able to do that.
despite those controversial remarks. except for the one who said he might vote democrat. thanks for your great coverage on this. let s bring in steve kornacki. put this in perspective for us. what there s the alabama side of this and the roy moore being an unusual character for alabama. but we ve seen unusual characters catch the public imagination. what does this mean for the situation for republicans in washington right now? this means a story that goes back a number of years now. it is still a big story. maybe bigger than it s been. that is that the republican base is furious with the republican establishment. the name mitch mcconnell. the idea of washington, d.c., of capitol hill. one of the things roy moore ran against was the idea of mitch mcconnell holding sway in the republican party. then indulge me. allow me to be a twisted sister here. could a true conspiracy theorist not make the argument this is all the grand plan. president trump has been kicking
the 40 members who have been holding sway over the entirety of the 247-vote republican conference with their unity and their essential threat of veto talking about how easy it is to blame but ultimately results have to be delivered. clearly positioning himself as someone who ala the paul ryan who worked out the budget deal with patty murray and the democrat from the senate could the get continuing resolutions passed, could avoid government shutdowns. that was the stake he put in the ground. joining me thomas fann at the brookings institution, co-author it s even worse than it looks. you wrote a book about how abnormal historically the republican, particularly the republican party and the republican house is. we re seeing that abnorp alt an play out in terms of the sequence of events that brought about the end of john boehner, kevin mccarthy not taking the job. now ryan stipulating a variety of conditions. i interpret to bring that can republican caucus to heal, what are the odds that