a place in my heart. as we close out ben and then jerry. final plugs or how people can get involved? name of the podcast is unaccountable. it s available whenever you get your podcasts. it s extremely well produced. i recommend it. and there s a lot of, like, celebrity guests. i don t know. van jones, killer mike. you name it. but the big thing is that this is the moment, right now, when your voice counts the most. in terms of getting this qualified immunity eliminated for cops. you got to call your senator. it s pretty easy. you call the capitol switchboard and say where you live. they give you your senator. okay. you can visit the website. hold cops accountable dot org. you can but in your email, and you will be informed whenever
so while some have moved on, tonight we re talking about the ben and jerry campaign to end qualified immunity for police. it is one of the key doctrines that changes the way police are held accountable if ever in american courts. it s also become a sticking point in the george floyd bill. the names that are on my shirt are all unarmed black people who were killed by the police, most of whom you have never heard about. it is only when people who do look like me stand up and demand it that we will finally eliminate qualified immunity and cops will be held accountable. that s just some of the activism. we re joined by the founders of ben and jerry. ben is also the author of above the law: how qualified immunity protects violence police. and eagle eyed viewers will remember when we had to do this
interview twice. not unlike two pints, that s how good it was. because you were very patient when breaking news intervened. now you re back on the beat, and i still have my ben and jerries with me. how are you guys jerry s ice c. how ya doing? doing good. working hard. this is game time. negotiations are going on as we speak in the senate, and now s the time to make your voice heard. i mean, like, speak now or forever hold it. you know? let s get into that. ben, as i mentioned, there were many companies that had dabbled. i think viewers know that you really have been involved for a long time, and here you re not just saying a slogan. you re getting into a very particular policy piece. why are you focused on this police immunity doctrine, ben, and how do you change it? cops are not held accountability when they break the law and violate people s constitutional rights, and