purple, like arizona and others, pennsylvania, georgia, you name it. i want to go back to john king at the magic wall. how did hobbs win. kari lake said, was she even out campaigning? she certainly wasn t walking around with a constant incredible lighting and microphone on her at all times trying to create drama. how did she get it? i think your guests have made the point. i ll go through the numbers in arizona and give national perspective. whether it s trumpism, whether it s election denial, abortion restrictions wlrks it s something else, a lot of voters just decided, we don t want that spicy. we will take normal. we will take maybe a little bit more dull. katie hobbs won by 20,481 votes. that s not a final number. we still need to figure that out. but she will be the next governor of arizona, a democratic governor of arizona, replacing yet another republican governor. she won again, 20,000 votes. that s not a lot. that s twice what joe biden won
like arizona, and others, pennsylvania, georgia, you name it. i want to go back to john king. how did hobbs win and kari lake, when she was out campaigning. was she out walking around with a constant incredible lighting and a microphone at her at all times trying to create trauma? how did she win? i think you re gas had made the point. i ll go through the numbers, both in arizona and make a national perspective. but this election, many of these candidates that voters view as a little too spicy, a little too out there. whether it is trumpism, or election denial. whether it s restrictions, or something else. a lot of voters just decided, we don t want that spicy. we will take normal, we will take maybe a little bit more
this is a flip now for democrats and a major blow to the trump wing of the gop. lake was one of the most outspoken proponents of the former president s lies about the 2020 election and his bas baseless conspiracies about arizona s elections process, and she ran a very trump-stayle campaign. in defeat, she s taking a play out of trump s playbook as well. she was on focus saying this election was, quote, botched and as of now she s yet to concede, but she has tweeted posting arizonaens know bs when they see it. i quote her there. john, set the record straight on this hobbs win. well, it seems to be bs that kari lake s even complaining about this at this point. you can see she s trailing by some 18,000 votes, kari lake is. i ll write that down. 18,000 votes. that margin is actually, actually more than donald trump lost by, so she s doing worse than donald trump did in arizona