by spreading all the alternatives? absolutely. the only way trump doesn t get the nomination is if it s just him and desantis. if it s a bunch of people in their, yeah, they will split the anti about because you know, trump has a very hard-core following. it is a called. colts don t ever go away. look at christiane italy! so, i despair about that, but i think about when they politician small the white house, they don t care about repercussions of the country. if you want to go for. it desantis against trump i think could get it. somebody said to me once, a conservative guy, he said the thing that you guys don t understand about as is that we don t really like trump. now that doesn t speak for all the trumpers. you definitely have some real fans! oh sure! but there is a lot of people that voted for him and that is their little secret. we don t like him either. we just vote for him because the stuff that you guys are doing on your fringe is scarier to us then what he is doing,
which is saying a lot. and i m not quite with them, but i get it. i get it. yeah, it s also that he hates the same people that they hate, given if they don t agree with him. yes. and a lot of that he success them in their eye. do you think that desantis is part of the old school republican tripe? or do you think that he is more of a trump or two point oh? that s a great question! i don t know if he is playing a part or that really him. you know, he s the reason he so effective is he does two things at once. he can be a real old school republican who just takes care of business, you know? covid, the hurricane, stuff like that he just goes about his business. he doesn t do crazy stuff. but then when he wants to throw red meat to the base, he s a performance artist and he does a lot of really outrageous stuff. but i get it! that is where the party is. if you want a big future in that party and especially if
sides. according to the times, trump spent weeks trying to goad desantis into a fight, describing him in conversations about meatball ron, an apparent dig at his appearance. again, no mirrors at mar-a-lago. or shutdown ron, a reference to restrictions the governor put in place at the beginning of the covid pandemic. again, obviously he can t read, because if he could read his own press releases from the white house, he told governors they needed to shut down. when asked about trump s attacks, desantis has mainly countered by reminding voters of trump s election losses. your advice is that is exactly what he should do. that is what he should do. i think desantis, of course, looked terrible in the debate with charlie, but there was a little sort of, you need to know that the moderator was the only one who was supposed to be asking questions. he might have been sticking to the rules.
childish and ridiculous things, it s a good nickname. it s not very self-aware of the former president, considering his own appearance. and the covid thing is an interesting choice, as well. to hit desantis for being easy on covid, when desantis, outside of the first couple weeks, made a point of going to the right of trump on pandemic response. i m not sure that ll play either, rev. really, what this is about, it s the opening act, right? desantis is trying to be above the fray. people who know both men know even desantis supporters know he has to get better for debate moments like that. trump is good at attacking political opponents. it is an undeniable skill he has. how do you see this playing out? what is interest to me is how he froze in the debate more than how he responds to trump. you know, i ran in 2004 in
finally for the republican party. and we ll both have a better 2024. i mean, he doesn t have to do that, but just if he comes with something strong, mocks him, pushing him to the side, great. but no republican, richard is and this is what i just can t understand. nobody has figured out how to do that. it s just not that hard. look, you can t beat something with nothing. i understand the tactics of not wanting to get down in the mud. that s what trump is good at. it is not clear desantis would emerge from that, shall we say, victorious. he can continue pushing the cultural agenda. he can continue going after the biden administration. it has all sorts of vulnerabilities. joe, you ve been in the game, i haven t. it is tactical and you see what happens. my instincts is desantis is right, not getting into a slinging match with trump. he has things he could attack the biden administration for. more broadly, republicans could use an agenda. it d be nice if one of the