to 1700 there were more europeans being held as slaves then there were blacks. also true that it was unjust and unfair when it happened in america. america like the whole western society ultimately rejected it and now to be black is to be an american, one of the most successful opportunities for any human being on the planet. jesse: it is interesting that you can say that and kamala harris, i don t think believes that. do you dig kamala harris believes the real history of american slavery, or is she just ignoring it to score points? of course she is trying to score points. you mentioned the resilience of people. black americans have been highly
to 1700, there were more europeans being hel 1700 d then there were blacks. it s also true that it wasalso u unjust and unfair to when it happened in america. bu t america like the wholeica like western society ultimately rejected it and now to beo be black is to be in america. and one of the mostt successful opportunities for any human being on the planet. it s interesting that s you can say that. do ynd kamala harris, i don t think believes that. do you think kamala harris believes the real history of american slavery or is she just ignoring it in order to score i pointst to? sco well, of course, she s trying to score points. se sheyou mentioned the resilie people, black americanths have
stain upon our history. but we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the united states. i think it is high time that we recognize the contribution of our forebearers who worked tirelessly, men like john quincy adams, who would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country. well, i don t know what to make of that, sal. that s balloon head, that s not what our history was founded on. the it went all the way to the civil war. we had compromise after compromise, and lost 600,000 people, the worst catastrophe in our history, because slavery continued through the 1860s, and only ended because of this war, and here his this woman you ve
made your spokeswoman. that was the one thing they did not deal with. that was the horrible compromise at the heart of our constitution. why do you put someone forward who was a balloon head, who knows no american history? it s a ridiculous decision you guys have made. do you know how also this woman knows? i think michele bachmann is one of the best did you just hear that stuff? do you want me to play it again? we could are ub it in, sal. it s horrendous. i think what she s talking about is that we cannot continue to spend money as recklessly that s not what he just said. she said the founding fathers got rid of slavery. why would you say that? every high school kid has been to mt. vernon and seen the slave quarters. jefferson had slaves, all those guys had slaves. they were great men in other regards, but they never got rid of slavery. here s this woman palling around
with scalia, and she doesn t even know what the constitution had in it. the treatment of slaves as three-fifths of people. that s in our history. explain to me what this woman is talking about. i think she s using it as an illustration of of what? what do you mean, sir? the concern today that their children and grandchildren will not have the same opportunities of the american dream, because we ve why are you talking like this? that s how she talks. she goes on this tape, no matter what you ask her, she is go goes on a tape. sal, you know when slavery ended. it ended with the civil war, right? well, some kind of slavery ended with the civil war. why are you hedging? i m not hedging on t. i m saying that when did slavery become illegal? when did the 13th amendment get passed? sure, that s a different question from when we ve had to