are digging out with a spoon from the commissary. this is a tunnel that had a rail system and a motorcycle placed in there that he could use to get out. it was a mile long. my point of how did they think they could hold him given the level of corruption they seem naive or they were all in on it. the idea this tunnel could have been burrowed to his cell. no one should be surprised it happened. hopefully, we will see the united states leverage collaboration with mexico and hopefully they will prioritize this as much as the united states would like to see it prioritized, given the impact. there s this other detail he had a tracking device. he wore it all the time. that was found left in his cell. do they have any idea how he got that off? again, the question of corruption is there. the issue of corruption though imagine if you are a prison guard working in a prison with chapo. his people could go to a house,
could say they know where your family is they know where your children go to school. so the fear that people have is extremely strong and that s what they are up against. that s why the cartels were a real threat to the mexican government. we have to wake up to that. i want to stick with corruption. you have been in mexico 15 years. you have been studying the corruption. you say it still blows your mind the level of corruption you have seen. how high up does it go? historically corruption has gone to the top of the government. in this case and i don t believe the president was involved in this because this was very painful for him. corruption is at all levels and you never know if an official is working for the cartel. an example, there was a police officer that used to be very friendly with the press, seemed like a good guy. then it turned out he was cutting people s heads off for the cartel.
expect to be able to hold any prisoner in a top security prison the same as in supermax in the united states. you have a high level prisoner from all over the world and capable of keeping them in the cells. i think we see clear mistakes from mexican authorities. such as? how, when this whole when this hole was opened how come nobody heard anything? to break open that hole into the tunnel there must have been a lot of noise. this is a prison. it should be silent. somebody should have heard. nobody did. another thing, how did they make a tunnel. imagine making a tunnel underground to the very spot where the guy is. even a map won t help you there. you might need gps systems inside that can guide you there. it s a question of corruption here of people involved that helps chapo escape. certainly. look at this tunnel it s sophisticated, matthew. this is no average tunnel you