it s difficult to have the conversation of, please, i cannot defend myself if i cannot prove myself to be truthful. in a different era, it would be political suicide to take the fifth. but this president has gained a great deal of political cover by building up this statement about a witch-hunt. the narrative being it s a rigged system. it can t be believed. giuliani is on this campaign as well. listen, i m taking the fifth not because i m guilty like the mop or hillary clinton s people, i m not going to take the fifth because it s not intended to be truthful or honest. and he may find a little cover under that. will the trump s base dessert is him for taking the fifth? absolutely not. there s a thing called historic predepartment and paoer departd.