registered voter polls, they seem to lean towards the president, but when you look at likely voter polls which, i would think, are going to be more meaningful at this point, larry, they seem to lean towards romney, right? you re exactly right. why is there this discrepancy? people e-mail me constantly about this. because democrats aren t as excited this year as republicans. it is enthusiasm gap. remember it was the opposite in 2008. democrats were more enthusiastic than republicans. it showed on election day. republicans have more enthusiasm, they are more determined in this election year, and really that is the president s problem, going forward. how does he energize the democratic vote to get it to come up in that enthusiasm gap to where republicans are? if he can t do it, he will probably lose. martha: if there is one state that is probably causing both of these campaigns the most angst and stress right ns of course ohio. and let s take a look at
started circling each other like . bill: sumo wrestlers. finalists in the state high school wrestling champship, it wasn t very presidential for either one of them. i think that was deliberate on president obama s strategy. i think president obama wanted to interrupt him. he knew governor romney has a tendency to ask questions. he was ready for that tactic. governor romney used that so well against newt gingrich and others in the republican primary and attempted to use it against president obama and president obama was ready for it. yeah, look, here s the deal. the second debate the governor romney same in second. president obama came in first but governor romney increased his lead on all the issue questions cnn asked, including the most important of all the economy where he went from 55-43 after the first debate to 58-40 after the second. you know, we look at these debates through two frames. one is olympic judges, what was the difficulty of the dive. then, then, what about the