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everything that the dhs is doing. there is an amazing amount of money that they ve been pumping into technology and nsa so it s beyond phone calls and beyond e mails. it s you on the street. it s you going into a sporting events, how do brian: is this way to stop terrorism? in 1975, senator frank church went on meet the press and said if the nsa ever turns its giant listening ears on the american people, he said the government will be able to run amuck and there will be nothing citizens can do. what happened after 9-11? those giant listening ears, now we re all suspects until proven innocent. that s not 4th amendment and that s not okay. brian: the intent of this is of course. brian: you write hidden order and bring up another concern. the fed. what operates them, how much power do they have? when i researched this book, it was like the pages of a spy novel. just the real life stuff about the fed. the federal reserve is 100 years old this year. they love the fact th

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