germany s oldest poteen and it s this kind of opposition that in the end could still prevention many from having a stable government anytime soon. let s bring in a did of these political correspondent simon young hi simon this is essentially the final make or break moment to form a new government for germany what happens if members vote against our working with merkel s conservative. or worse in that case i think they re the most likely thing is that fresh elections would be held that might take a few months to set up but i do tend to think that most s.p.d. members will in fact in the end come down in favor of a new grand coalition with angela merkel s party they may not be keen on it but after the chaos of recent days you know they may just saw aides that they prefer that there s even less athletes light for new elections and all the uncertainty that that would bring for the s.p.d.