another town and they were cheered. what this suggests is that putin is not popular, that people were actually rooting for the other skies and that is a really damaging realisation for the russian people, for everyone to look around and say, actually, everyone shares my views which is that these guys are not doing any good, and that will be difficult to recover from. recover from. what about prigozhin? recover from. what about prigozhin? do recover from. what about prigozhin? do you - recover from. what about prigozhin? do you think l recover from. what about l prigozhin? do you think you will go quietly to belarus or challenge putin again? i think that he is still challenge putin again? i think that he is still a challenge putin again? i think that he is still a very - that he is still a very integral part of the whole russian system. remember that he was a guy who was doing all the hacking of the us elections using his internet research agency. he is a guy who is running so
for now, at least, his main opponents are in exile or in prison. so what happens next? bill browder is an anti corruption activist and author, and putin critic. i spoke with him earlier bill, welcome to the programme. after a startling 2a hour is in russia, what do you think i m sex for president putin? putin comes out sex for president putin? putin comes out of sex for president putin? putin comes out of this sex for president putin? putin comes out of this whole - sex for president putin? putin comes out of this whole mess| comes out of this whole mess looking much weaker than he did going into it 48 hours ago and thatis going into it 48 hours ago and that is a real problem for him. that kind of weakness will attract other people do have a go at him, to challenge his authority and to potentially try to do the same thing, so from a putin s perspective, he needs to be the meanest guy in the prison yard. he needs to show his teeth. he needs to show his teeth. he needs to show that
it shows real cracks. we can t speculate or know exactly where that s going to go. we do know that putin has a lot more to answer for in the weeks and months ahead. while president putin faces uncertainty, so too does the wagner group. it is unclear what will happen next to prigozhin and his ranks of mercenary soldiers, who ve been key in russia s waron ukraine. here s the bbc s steve rosenberg in moscow. leaving as heroes. the wagnerfighters pulling out of rostov last night. you d think they d just won a war. the leader of the mercenary group, yevgeny prigozhin, was off, too. he d just done a deal with the kremlin to end their mutiny. the rebellion started here, then spread north. it was the biggest challenge to vladimir putin s authority since he came to power. vladimir vladimirovich putin. russia s commander in chief likes to project an image
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instability russians can feel it. the rebel wagner fighters may not have made it to moscow, but people here were watching nervously and waiting. i m a mother with three children, anna tells me. of course i m terrified by what has happened. we were scared these events would spread to moscow, nastya says. there s nothing ordinary citizens can do to influence the situation. it s decided above our heads. many russians tell me that they don t believe they have the power to change what is happening in their country, to make their voices heard, to turn things around. as steve rosenberg reports, the past 48 hours call into question just how firm vladimir putin s grip on russia actually is.