medical records from kansas women. joining us now are dr. herbert hodes and his daughter, tracy nauser. they have an obgyn practice together. they filed a suit to block these rules from going into effect. let me start with you. i know you are among the people who have filed suit challenging the constitutionality of the new regulations and the way they are being enforced. in the meantime, are these new regulations shutting you down in terms of providing abortions in kansas? well, our office will be open tomorrow morning as it has been for over 30 years in this location. we will not be providing abortion services until we hear something about our injunction that was filed to be heard tomorrow afternoon. dr. nauser, is there doubt in your mind that the purpose of these new regulations is to ban
her less than three-minute surgery. wow. dr. hodes, i know you have practiced in kansas for over 30 years and performed abortions all of this time. what is your experience been in the state? how has it changed over the last 30 years? are you dealing now with something materially different circumstances than you ever had to deal with before? well, absolutely. i first trained at the university of kansas medical center in the early 70s. so i was around before roe versus wade. i have seen the horrors of illegal abortions. i have done hysterectomies on women who have been perforated, infected. fortunately, i have never seen anybody die, but that was an occurrence in the past. there were wards on our service for strictly care of septic abortions. i told myself when i went into practice i wasn t going to ever have to see that again. and i didn t. and we practiced abortion care as well as routine obstetric and