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for the grassroots anger and frustration which led to the tea party movement. the tactics employed, that s come from the top. the people haven t said shut down the government, it s people like cruz and rand paul. my argument, there s a real urge to get control of finances. the democrats have not taken seriously, probably never have. then you ve got it s true. you re laughing but they never have. the president put reforms to medicaid medicare and social security on the table. he also has said i ll do it if you do your thing. i ll show mine if you show yours. i can remember in the 70s working for ed muskie, one of the real responsible people whereby mai 15th they had the rules followed. they had a bipartisan budget with republicans led by henry bellman on the minority side, ranking member there for oklahoma. ed muskie had a bipartisan budget with all the governmental functions ascribed their spending levels outlay, budget authority, deficit, outlay and

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