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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:08:00

now the other investigation berman sites is being particularly threatening to donald trump s reelection, is around the ex presidents attempt to pressure ukraine to investigate his then opponent joe biden. you might remember those two names. left porn and eager fruman. they were associates of trump s personal lawyer rudy giuliani who kind of run errands for giuliani. they helped giuliani with this pressure campaign on ukraine officials. according to they took their orders from giuliani. and 2020, it told rachel maddow he did not do anything with the consent of giuliani or donald trump. they have been both been sentenced to prison time for the roles in that scheme. giuliani is running around free. we know he was also under investigation by the southern district of new york as of 2019. in april of last year, the fbi searched his home and office, seized his phones and computers. two months later federal judge appointed a special watchdog to

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:03:00

trump s political enemies and assist trump s friends. it was a disgrace. now we should know as rachel did berman did raise some alarms of the time, wasn t kept all tightlipped until the book came out. and of course this behavior is no surprise from the former president. fact, targeting political enemies was one of the central themes of donald trump s 2016 campaign. remember how often he called his opponent hillary clinton to be locked up. even replaced his first attorney general jeff sessions after sessions refused to lock the right people up. and trump repeatedly braided him on twitter for doing so. jeffrey berman stories from the southern district make it clear, that behind the scenes it was even worse than that. the ex president second attorney general, bill barr and other senior officials of the department of justice would actually call up berman s office and explicitly tell them

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:07:00

that was something that we had been investigating for quite awhile and we continue to investigate for quite a while. both of them are very sensitive. now as berman mentioned, the case against the bannon has become notorious. after berman he was fired, federal investigation against panic continued. in august, 2020, u.s. postal investigators arrested bannon on board a chinese billionaire s yacht in the long island sound, he was charged with fraud and then subsequently pardoned by donald trump in trump s final hours in office. that s after january six, and after all jeff bannon did to promote the coup. that pardon however does not preclude bannon from facing state charges and just last week he was charged by the manhattan district attorney with essentially the same crimes related to his alleged scream to defraud donors to his we build the organization. looks like the prosecutors in new york have much of the same evidence against bannon the department of justice had accrued.

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:21:00

search affidavit. not document, we learned a trump lawyer was told that all of the white house records were located in the storage room and he quote was not advised that there were any records in a private office space or other location of mar-a-lago. that suggested someone, like donald trump lied to said lawyer. meanwhile, on the january six investigation, yesterday we learned the doj has is glided investigation into the coal plotters, issuing 40 subpoenas, seizing phones to top advisers. today benny johnson of mississippi, told us the panels looking at resuming the hearing on september 28th, but they are looking into cooperating more of the doj. i think now that the department of justice is in proactive and issuing subpoenas, i think it s time for the committee to determine whether or not the information we have gathered can be abused to their

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:09:00

review that material and recommended what prosecutors could review. still nothing has come of this investigation. just last month, the times reported giuliani is unlikely to face charges. giuliani like steve bannon seems incapable of keeping himself out of legal trouble. in light of the charges and you can scheme, he is a target in the criminal scheme of election interference in georgia, when he actively attempted to overturn election. there s every reason to believe the current january 6th investigation which is growing larger and larger by the day may end up on giuliani s doorstep as well, given how intimately involved he was with helping donald trump plan and execute the insurrection. but of course here is the thing. if donald trump were to be reelected, none of this would matter. that s the explicit promise of another trump term. there would be more bill barr s at the department of justice, probably even more than him, more rudy giuliani s and, more

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