that prison was the closest i ever hope to come to hell. prisoners will be caught, both sides. they ll be put into camps. as the war goes on then, these camps become overcrowded and they become virtual hellholes. the worst of the camps by far would be andersonville, in southwestern georgia, in which you have 45,000 soldiers in 26 acres. and death begins to stalk, in andersonville, one estimate of 100 soldiers dying a day. while soldiers rot in prison camps, confederate guerillas go to extremes to drive out northern invaders. there were guerillas and partisans in tennessee and in kentucky, missouri, states that were under union occupation, where you had extralegal, unofficial armies that would wage pretty savage campaigns.
places and that s why they can t go back. you can t really say both, can you? no, i think the position in the lawsuit, and certainly if you look at the designation that supports this is that the justifications for granting temporary protected status to people from el salvador and haiti and sudan and nicaragua remain in place today. the countries continue to be tucker: no, no, no. but about so trump s comments, the ones that were reported, and we don t really know exactly what he said. but i m willing to believe he said that, because it s true, by the way. a lot of these countries are hellholes. are you taking issue with that? are you saying that it s wrong to call haiti a hellhole, but no one here from haiti can be returned to haiti because it s a hellhole? i mean, will you just engage with that core thing? no. right, yeah, no, tucker.r. what the president has reported to have said is that we don t want people from these s-hole countries, and so it was an expression of animus
plaintiffs whom you re representing are saying it was bigoted of the president to describe certain countries as hellholes, crappy places to live. and yet the justification for n their being here anyway and not returning is that those countries are exactly what president trump said they were. so how does it work? i don t think that s quite how we see it, tucker. i think the government can create a temporary program for people to stay 6, 12, even 18t months. these are countries where people have been lawfully residing here under this u.s. program for almost 20 years. in some cases, more than 20 years. all we re saying is that when the government wants to change the program and take away their status, tear apart their families, their u.s. citizen children who are in high school they have to have a very good reason to do that. and they don t have a very good reason here. tucker: may i just say that hold on. isn t the reason itself inherent in the program? it was temporary. this wasn
personally. laura: while, then we found this. the dream act would not allow what is known as chain migration. in fact, dream act students would have very limited ability to sponsor their family members. laura: one trump uses it is racist, when he was is that just descriptive. incidentally, lindsey graham, was supposedly upgraded the president for calling certain companies s-holes, had no qualms using his own strong anguish. the people coming across this, they live in hellholes. our problem is we can have everybody who lives they re coming to america. our grandma and durbin racist? if we apply the same logic we ll want to apply to trump, that s ridiculous. if the left is no circling the wagons on this. now we learn that john lewis, maxine waters, frederica wilson,
different standards here. in 2013, lindsey graham said the exact same thing the president did what he use the word hellhole. we can t have everyone coming from every hellhole on the planet here. i know everyone think lindsey graham is a great statesman because he put this thing out about american ideals and stuff which was a good statement but he said almost the identical thing to the president in 2013. sandra: here are those original comments he s referencing from senator graham. the people coming across the southern border live in hellholes. they don t like that. they want to come here. our problem is, we can have everybody in the world who lives in a hellhole coming to america. we re just going to have to create order out of chaos. sandra: they rate is. charles: that was said in open senate hearings which is a different between a private negotiation in the white house for your trying to hash out. what is a very volatile issue. i feel like i m sort of an expert on these thing