quote, be sidelined the next time, you know. and i think that they would say, hey, look, we needed to get something done. and if mcconnell was only going to deal with biden, fine. mcconnell and biden can do that. i don t think that s the model going forward. i think reid feels as if, hey, i got 55 votes now. i don t have 53. i m not a dwindling majority leader as some people thought i was going to be. dwindling a number of democrats and therefore not as much power. i don t think so. and don t forget, this isn t checkers at this point. the white house doesn t want to get harry reid too alienated or they ll never get their gun proposals going because harry reid is not excited about dealing with this gun issue in the senate. he ll do it if his arm s twisted, but they can t keep beating him up on other issues. david, it s heilmann here. i want to know from you i want to try to take us from the low and mundane and the meh-teh
it s not been quite the same as the gop. i think you re going to see more of that. this is really going to play out, though, guys in 2015 and 2016, i think you ll see the fault line in the party populist versus an elite fault line. and i think you ll see him as a reformer taking on public employees, talking about having sort of tighten the belt on fiscal issues. and then you re going to see somebody who is that old-time candidate, talking about populism, holding true to the true faith. hey, jonathan, it s heilmann. just to play off that last point. yeah. is it not the case that if secretary clinton runs in 2016, that this division could get papered over again? she is someone who would be acceptable to both parts of the democratic the schism that you re talking about. so first of all, if she runs, does it get papered over again because she becomes the democratic nominee by acclamati acclamation? if they doesn t run, are there
come back. we just got an e-mail. okay, heilmann, i m holding you accountable on this. i m holding you accountable on this one. okay. so there s a small small correction. have you been smoking, man? no. read this. i was reading no, no, don t dig yourself deeper in the hole. it s wrong. so willie, a correction here. it sounded a little strange to me. it did sound strange. it s a small world. chuck hagel saved the life of his own brother. he served side by side with his younger brother in vietnam. then mcconnell should vote against him. you got an e-mail clarification from mitch mcconnell s people. from somebody, somebody close to the process. somebody close to the process. not mcconnell s brother, but he saved his own brother. but saving your own brother ain t bad. let me get this straight. he hates him because he saved his own brother? what s he got against brothers? we ll be right back.
colleagues. if he can come out of those softening the rhetoric of the opposition, i think he ll get through quite easily. he needs to go up humble. as i said, chuck hagel, we love him. we know him. a nice guy. the foreign policy community knows him and loves him. he is he s straight in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy. but when he was on the hill, he had really sharp elbows. i didn t like him when he was on the hill. i like him now. now that i got to know him outside but he didn t he did not play well in that sandbox. i think he has the talents you re talking about. let s look at this resentment, heilmann and then take it to ben. we have to pull a sound bite from lindsey graham accusing him of not being mainstream to try and sum up this resentment. tell me what this resentment is. who is it? by whom? what s the problem? list them for me. will you please stop interrupting him? i want to hear the names. and just let him talk. graham, maybe mcconnell, maybe. t
analyst, john heilemann. i thought we were going to wait longer before he came back. alex, next time talk to me first. msnbc and time magazine senior political analyst, mark halperin, who does way too early very well. does it very well. under adverse conditions. well, mr. heilmann, why didn t you do way too early ? right. i don t think so. is it too early? yeah. seriously. 30 minutes. the usual thing. the usual thing. yeah. we can t talk about that, can we? no. okay. well, i m going to get to the news which is going to start. is this chris christie? no, we re going to do that later. peter king? no, seriously? why aren t we starting there? i actually tried to bring it up several times yesterday, but apparently you need lawmakers ranting and just railing against congress in order to cover it. i was horrified yesterday. i thought chris christie gave wow! oh, now you re horrified because chris christie s horrified.