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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181103:09:44:00

argued, to believe conrad, you have to believe heidi shot herself in the bathroom then walked 12 feet before falling to the floor and according to medical examiner, that was impossible. he testified heidi s head wound was so severe that she could have at most walked a step or two. this issue of distance was this big issue. but for anne talafaro, seeing the house and how small it was was proof enough that the prosecution s argument was flawed. when you walk in the house, there is no way there is even 12 feet there. what s more, according to defense team, conrad never told the police heidi shot herself in the bathroom. instead, he told them he had no idea where she was when he heard the shot. tell me your theory of what happened here. we believe that heidi truman shot herself in this very area and we believe that she fell right in the area directly in front of me on the ground and it s the very area where she was

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181103:09:07:00

any other day. as night fell, heidi decided to take a bath. conrad said he went to the kitchen to get something to eat. as he fixed himself a sandwich. he said he heard a noise coming from the direction of the bathroom. it was like the new year s poppers or the halloween poppers, where you can pull two strings or you can pull one and confetti and stuff comes out. that s when conrad said he turned and saw heidi standing there in the hallway, naked. she wasn t talking. she wasn t talking at all. she was coughing. she was heaveing. and she was bleeding? she was bleeding out of her mouth and her nose. i needed to call 911 immediately. 911. what is your emergency? orem, utah. an unimaginably shocking scene, heidi on the kitchen floor in a people of her own blood, conrad on the phone, pleading for hundred. there s so much blood. new don t get here right now. i don t know what happened. i really don t know what

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181103:09:21:00

swirled at tear base, how did heidi truman wiped up on the floor shot in the head? for sure, police were wondering about her husband. after all, conrad truman was in the house when heidi was shot and there was no evidence of an intruder. i feel like they thought i did something. soon after he arrived at the scene, sorth bill crook did begin to have his suspicions. we re telling him, conrad, back off, the paramedics are here, he wouldn t. he was what moving around? keeping paramedics from getting to the body in. yes, sir. there were other scenarios that needed to be explored like accidents and suicide. that s where detective tom wallace had come in. there were a number of theories. we will obviously exhaust them. that will happen. the medical examiner didn t make wallace s job either. his preliminary finding, heidi s manner of death could not be determined. so wallace tackled each theory

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181103:09:52:00

leave no room behind with xfi pods. simple. easy. awesome. click or visit a retail store today. conrad truman had been convicted of murder, sentenced to life and had already served more than three years. now, the revelation of those flawed police measurements had led to conrad truman s new trial. that stunned everyone in the utah county d.a. s office. especially the man responsible for conrad s conviction. prosecutor craig johnson. this is something that really took us by surprise. reporter: the defense says you had to have known. well, that s their take, and they re doing their job to zealously represent their client, but i can tell you categorically that that s not correct. reporter: just as stunned was

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181103:09:25:00

over conrad s statements to police about what happened that night. as wallace saw it, conrad s story went like this conrad was in the kitchen. heidi was in the bathroom. at some point conratd heard a pop. when he heard, he saw heidi standing somewhere between the kitchen and the bathroom hallway bleeding. and he either runs over to catch her or she falls down. wallace then went back to the truman home making detailed measurements of the kitchen and surrounding rooms, he wanted to see if conratd s story checked out. his conclusion, it did not. her body is at the top of the staircase. it doesn t add up she would have traveled the distance he s saying she would have gone and fallen at that location. it was hard for wal lat to believe heidi could have traveled from the bathroom to the top of the stairs after sustaining such a severe head wound. she would have fallen immediately to the ground. wallace shares his findings with assistant district attorney

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