And then beyond that, there are themes that emerge about the importance of National Causes that catalyze people to see themselves as leaders. Catalysts like the brown decision itself, which black leaders were so heavily involved. And then of course the Civil Rights Movement that generated grassroots leaders who came about and then became leaders for the rest of their lives. So the book has those major themes and i think thats exactly what emerges from the interviews and thats why i wrote the book, to call attention to these themes. But you can also just go to the website and find what you want in these interviews. Phyllis leffler, thank you very much. Its a pleasure. Id like to begin by asking you to recollect as best you can what you think of as being the most important early influences on your own life. My father wasrse an educator and when i was born, he was president of ford Valley State College in southern georgia. Had been a classroom teacher and then went back to that and stoppe
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