trump administration, but now we are hearing just nuclear defiance when it comes to the united states and the overtures are only towards south korea. clearly north korea feeling that last year there was a bad relationship between the two countries and bad relationship between the two leaders as well. they are looking at it. in seoul, south korea. president trump is tweeting about all the developments saying sanctions and other pressures are beginning to have a big a.m. pact on north korea. soldiers are fleeing to south korea. rocket man wants ta talk to south korea for the first time. perhaps that is good news and perhaps not. we shall see. joining us is the managing director at the washington institute of former senior director at security counsel. also with us, the former secretary of state heather conley geist. thank you very much for joining