thank you both. that is all in on this tuesday night. alex wagner tonight starts right now with my good friend, alex wagner. good evening, alex. good evening, chris. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. we have breaking news tonight from the new york times this evening, some reporting that makes a recently unearthed chunk reporting even more incredible. if you have not yet heard nbc news has independently obtained the audio of former president trump at his bedminster, new jersey, golf club essentially admitting to a crime. here s trump in july 2021 telling a group of people he still has classified information after leaving the white house and then proceeding to destroy his own defense. he explicitly says on audiotape that he could have declassified this when he was president but he did not. take a listen. i just found isn t that amazing? this totally wins my case, you know? except it is like highly confidential. yeah, yeah. secretive this is secre
on the heels of that audio, former president trump sat for multiple interviews today, and he was pushing a sort of new defense saying all of this commentary on tape, that was all bravado. quote, i was talking and just holding up papers and talking about them, but i had nodulates. and i said it very clearly i had a whole desk full of lots of papers and mostly newspaper articles, copies of magazines, copies of different plans, copies of stories having to do with many, many subjects. and what was said was absolutely fine. we did nothing wrong. this is a whole hoax. i don t do things wrong. i do things right. i m a legitimate person. i do not do things wrong, that defense is pretty funny on its face because it is incredibly well documented how much trump did not handle documents well. but that defense and this video are extra interesting today because of this new reporting
thank you both. that is all in on this tuesday night. alex wagner tonight starts right now with my good friend, alex wagner. good evening, alex. good evening, chris. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. we have breaking news tonight from the new york times this evening, some reporting that makes a recently unearthed chunk reporting even more incredible. if you have not yet heard nbc news has independently obtained the audio of former president trump at his bedminster, new jersey, golf club essentially admitting to a crime. here s trump in july 2021 telling a group of people he still has classified information after leaving the white house and then proceeding to destroy his own defense. he explicitly says on audiotape that he could have declassified this when he was president but he did not. take a listen. i just found isn t that amazing? this totally wins my case, you know? except it is like highly
from the new york times tonight. the times reports that in addition to the search for classified documents down at mar-a-lago special counsel jack smith s team also went over to the bedminster property and went over that with a fine toothed comb. smith subpoenaed surveillance video and after the fbi searched mar-a-lago last summer, they were concerned that trump still had more documents stashed at bedminster. the times then goes onto describe yet another document saga much like the one we already knew about at mar-a-lago in which smith s office, again, after having already searched mar-a-lago, asked trump to provide a sworn statement that everything had been turned over. trump refused. smith s office then tried to get a subpoena so that they could search the bedminster property. but minutes literally minutes
years in prison for the exact same charge that donald trump is now facing, the willful retention of national defense information. that fbi analyst was also keeping hundreds of classified documents in her bathroom, apparently bathrooms are a popular place for classified documents. so as wild as trump s alleged crimes here are, they aren t even original, and it seems that that is the point. the way jack smith s indictment lays out trump s discussion of classified documents at bedminster doesn t seem to be using it as the basis for its own charge. instead the special counsel seems to be using this blockbuster tape, and it is a blockbuster, to bolster his other very straightforward charges with an incredible pretty jaw dropping example of donald trump s intent. joining us now to break down this very interesting series of events and breaking news are two of our brightest legal minds,