individualist. chris: are you as pessimistic? with the senate, they really have to walk in a straight linef movement with the legislation in the sense that anything you do, if you move it to the right, you re going to lose the center. if you move it to the left, you re going to lose the conservatives. in the senate, you lose three republican senators and it s done. i think we could see the senate bill passed closer. i spoke to one health care expert who said may be christmas time. these senators are going to want to leave their mark. endless amendments coming in, it could change the bill. i hope it doesn t because if not, it will not pass. chris: despite the celebration today, were going to be in this for a long time. i think it s going to be for the long haul, especially senators who don t have to deal with two-year terms.
representation they re making that this is about pre-existing conditions protect, they are it s not even it s so untrue. let me just quote some people. now republicans are again fraudulently claiming the upton amendment covers americans with pre-existing conditions. it does not. a health care expert at mercoda center, conservative center, said the amendment hand focuses on high-risk pools but the $8 million is a pittance. spread over five years it s a fifth of a pittance. and then karen pulitz at kizer family health care foundation said fwoo cover the cost for only 1% of those in the individual market. they re big on 1%, whether it s money for 1% or health care for
chris: are you as pessimistic? with the senate, they really have to walk in a straight line there there s not a lot of movement with the legislation in the sense that anything you do, if you move it to the right, you re going to lose the center. if you move it to the left, you re going to lose the conservatives. in the senate, you lose three republican senators and it s done. i think we could see the senate bill passed closer. i spoke to one health care expert who said may be christmas time. these senators are going to want to leave their mark. endless amendments coming in, it could change the bill. i hope it doesn t because if not, it will not pass. chris: despite the celebration today, were going to be in this for a long time. i think it s going to be for the long haul, especially senators who don t have to deal with two-year terms. chris: all right, we have
$8 billion it seems a lot of money, but it s over five years, which is $1.5 billion a year. they say i think it is a band-aid on this bill. so a week ago or two weeks ago, this bill would never pass. they put the band-aid on it and said we re going to have this subsidy. we re going to write a check from the federal government to cover those people, but nobody believes the $1.5 billion a year will cover all the people in this country s health insurance costs, medicines, pills, doctors, hospitalization. all of that is going to be covered for about $1.5 billion a year. nobody believes that. i don t know any health care expert or economist that believ that. that s a drop in the bucket for what s needed, and i bet steve would agree with that. let s go along with that number because it looked to me as a palliative as a doctor might say. it s submitted it would cost anywhere from $200 billion to $330 billion to provide these high-risk pools that are
preexisting conditions, they e are it s not even it s so untrue. let me just quote some people. now republicans, again, are fraudulently claiming the upcoming amendment covers americans with preexisting conditions. it does not. a health care expert at the conservative center, conservative center, said the amendment it had focuses on high risk pools but the $8 million amount is spread over five years. it s 1/5 of a pittance. the president doesn t know what he is talking about. a health care expert at the kaiser family foundation said it would cover the cost for only 1% of those in the individual market. 1%. they re big on 1%. there s money for the 1% or