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that s great. excuse me, sir, my understanding that house is not in session. i m right here, secretary. we are here. shannon: kevin, did they reach conclusions on that? there are a couple of ways to look at that. yes, he was at the state department but this was a head back-to-back capitol hill meetings. so they are arguing, look, he needed to be there, simple, safer, smarter but look. the bottom line is this he was g itself took place. as you saw there a number of ranking members were actually on the ground, however, chairman means that this was a hybrid hearing which means some chose to be there and others chose not to be there. here is what the critics will argue: this will establish a trend. others especially in this administration and future administrations to use events like covid or other events to simply stay away in particular the high-stakes hearing. that is the concern here but i

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