a tiny country, everybody trusts him down there, he s respected, if i can make one call he would be a good guy to talk to about what s going on. a number of months later i ran into sangoneti, president bush. i heard people say in the large foreign policy issues he was very present, but he was also present on the small stuff. he wasn t calling sangoneti to get a vote, he was developing a relationship with him. that s who he was, he was great at relationship building. when john tolliver was being considered as the secretary of defense, he asked me to join him you were going to vote for him anyway? it was a tough vote. but he backed your dad. he did, absolutely. but also president bush asked me to be for him. did he? yeah. that s nice.