the time when i was ten or 11. my grandfather who was sort of the patriarch of the family kept everything together, he died at the age of 67. which at the time i thought was really old. and i was like i can t believe that my grandfather died at 67ho years old. tucker: how did he die? just died of an aortic aneurysm, which is a problem that we later found outfo if he had gotten adequate treatment for, probably would be alive today or at least lived another ten, 15 years pretty easily. so he died. the family kind of spiraled from there. and he was also just not the cultural and spiritual head of the family, but the material head of the family. it was him who provided for us in the most.e important ways. so you eliminate all of that and then the family started spiral pretty powerfully. tucker: did you recognize it was happening? you definitely recognized by the time i was 13 and this was not normal.. and not in the way that too it was normal in the sense that a lot of families i
so unlike fortunately, everyone else, you moved from this world to a completely different one. is what you just described is a story of an entire region, maybe a whole part of the country. but you somehow wound up in a completely different world. so you joined the marine corps. you enlisted in the marine corps, and then you gets. out after four years. how do you go to yale law school? if you reverse a little bit my grandma did not have a high school degree and was not an educated woman. but was a very smart woman and understood the writing on though wall, which was if he ise going to have a chance, he has to get out. it was drilled to me from an early age. the idea that this is not a community where you can build a long-term life for yourself. you have to get out. tucker: here s onee of the most amazing people you have ever met, ever. jenny burton got addicted to meth at the age of 12. she got up from her mother. she went to prison three times including twice with her mother. at th
i send a specific gratitude to 20 people. tucker: what does that mean gratitude list? i don t think that it gets loaded. to me say this, whatever i tell: myself is the truth, and i think that s the truth for everyone so we have to be careful what we say to ourselves. so i made some dirt don t answer and things my truth. one is that a grateful attic does not get loaded. i m an addict. i m always going to be an addict. i m not an addict in active use. so i make a decision to be grateful for my life. on those are the things that are hard. the things that i don t want to face. the things that are happening and feels like to me, so that i can gain skills to be a stronger person. so i write this gratitude list and i send it out to more than 20 people. tucker: what does that mean, what is on it? i could probably pull my phone out. tucker: i don t want to embarrass you. i m not embarrassed. i m so transparent, i am an open book. it would take a lot to embarrass me. so like i am gra
if the guy is sitting there stabbing himself, the r likelihd of him going out and stealing and robbing to continue to buy knives is probably pretty slim. tucker: [laughs] yes, it is. and i think about that, and it s like why are we allowing people to destroy themselves. and not only that, but to create an unsafe society for the rest of us. tucker: there are a lot of people that just get lit up on wine or taking benzos or hitting the weed really hard,, a lot of people know about addiction whether or not they admit it. what is your process? i wake up at 4:00 in the morning, sometimes that s a little late. sometimes tucker: that s too early. but i need personal me time and that s the best time to get it. and i feel like i miss half of my day if i don t get up before 5:00, i feel like my day is shot. not really, i mean, but i feel like i ve missed a significanty portion of my day. thanks for the facial expression. tucker: i m not up at 4:00. so i read scriptures and i pra
and we are grateful for every one of them that we do. recently for example we spoke to archbishop charles who grew up surrounded by death. we asked him about that, and he said that it made him grateful for the things he has. watch. so you have seen a lot of death in your life, of course. i grew up seeing death. tucker: you re the son of a mortician? yes, i lived in a funeral home, and my friends were afraid to visit me when i was a kid because they had to go to the funeral home to associate with death, but i grew up very comfortable with death, because i thought around me all the time. my father was a wonderful man and a wonderful mortician. he knew how to comfort people