capsules are really like. i discovered how tiny they were and how cramped they were. i realized then that my astronaut dreams were gone. i had to set my sights on anchoring. your father famously said you might the right decision for the country. i got a kick out of that. he rid me that i could fit in my capsule, neil. i look at that capsule in space center houston now that he sat in. i think back how did they do that for that many days. not moving. it was pretty small. neil: you know, when you look at he always said he liked unmanned missions. he thought going to mars and beyond and one capsule that went past pluto that he felt those were crucial. but there s nothing like a human being seeing and reacting to this. that was important to him,
if you re interested in history, it s ten times better than reading about it in a book. so, i guess it gives you greater appreciation of your forbearers and the suffering they went through. does that appreciation dampen at all for you by the fact they were fighting for the cause for the states that were pro-slavery. you ve got to get into the mind of the the 19th century mind or get into the 18th century mind. it s hard to do. you have to do a lot of reading. the library is full of reading about why people decided it was worth fighting to die to own and sell people. again, that s one of the topics at the time. that s a big topic. that s pretty big. that s a big topic. well, if you didn t own slaves, it s not such a big topic. well, do you think is that how we should view these monuments in the present day given the fact there s a large pop lags of americans who those monuments represent? so, do we squash it?
we reached out to the great great grandson of jefferson davis. he s trying to reclaim his family s legacy from those who see davis as a hero of white supremacy. we slept in the vicksburg home of jefferson davis. you say you re a davis descendant in mississippi, you better be ready. it brings responsibility. people are assuming you re going to be a davis. somebody asked me why i don t dress up like him. hayes davis still holds on to artifacts from his great great grandfather, a book he signed, a letter he sent, a chair he sat in. is there more resonance with something you own than something in a public square somewhere? to me absolutely because it s handed down. a confederate monument or statue, when those folks put that up, had reverence to them. how do you balance or reconcile or wrestle with the
if you re interested in history it s ten times better than reading about it in a book. so i guess it gives you greater appreciation of your forebearers and what they went through. you ve got to get into the mind of like the 19th century mind or get into the 18th century mind. it s really hard to do. you have to do a lot of reading. the library is full of reading about why people decided it was worth fighting and dying to own people and sell people and again that s one of the topics of the time. it s a big topic. pretty big. well, if you didn t own slaves it s not such a big topic. do you think that is how we should view these monuments in the present day given the fact there s a large population of americans who those monuments represent so do we squash it?
we reached out to the great great-grandson of jefferson davis. he s trying to re-claim his family s legacy for those who see davis as a hero of white supremacy. the night before our meeting we slept in the home of vicksburg davis, jefferson s friend and mentor. it brings responsibility. people are assuming you re going to be a davis. somebody asked me why i don t dress up like him. he still holds onto artifacts from his great great grandfather, a book he signed, a letter he sent, a chair he sat in. is there more resonance with something you own than something in a public square somewhere? to me, yes, absolutely. because it s handed down. this chair has reverence to me. a confederate monument or statue when those folks put that up had reverence to them. how do you balance or reconcile or wrestle with the