that is the the reason is we did an extensive 20-year active assault analysis of every mass school shooting in the united states, and what we found is that a lot of things, number one, all these mass murders are over in a matter of four minutes. number two, you ve got all school personnel that are on campus and a majority of these school shootings, school personnel on campus have stopped these murders from taking place. number three, this mass murderer had an empty gun five times, five times he reloaded, and if there was personnel on campus that had a weapon, they could have stopped him and neutralized this threat and killed this murderer. i did not support this measure. i recently traveled to israel to look how israel makes their schools safe. there s a tremendous threat there in israel, and what they found is that they tried this
or 30 people crouched, tucked into together behind him. there were people falling left, right, and center. i didn t know if they were tripping or they were shot by the machine gun. i started jogging, trying to make a plan. my plan was, i ran as fast as i could left and right, left and right. and at this point we both thought there were shooters on the ground just spraying people with bullets. at that point it was, you know, the flight set in. and i started running. a man started screaming at me urgently, get down, get down, get down. so i dove into the gutter. at that point i was there for i guess a couple seconds which felt like a couple militants. the gunfire stopped as he reloaded. when he reloaded, a scaled the fence, and there was a sea of people going that way and everyone was just running and
away a little bit. then he would come back. it looked like he was just spraying. we had a gap where he reloaded, it took them a lot longer the last time. we just did a full on sprint and did not stop until we reached two blocks away. jon: was there any indication? police with their side arms, even if they had known where he was firing from, it would have been all one in a million shot to be able to take him out. was there any indication that it was coming from the mandalay bay? did you see any flashes or things like that? no, it was that far away. now i m looking at the video i guess they found him through the smoke detectors from when i am hearing. no. i knew that it was coming from that general direction, but to be honest with you i thought he was on the ground and slowly moving forward through the event space. we did not know he was across the street. it makes sense if he broke