investigation into his taxes. shaply told the panel they intervened but weiss himself said thosess claims were false, something democrats used to push backs on those allegation. mr. weiss took a good hard look at those charges himself andth ultimately decided not to charge them and therefore not to seek the special attorney status. he mayno t have been right abou that, he may have been wrong as you guys make your case for, but it was his decision. isn t that right, mr. shaply? no, that s not supported by the facts. really? which facts it s not supported by. the admissions in the 2020 meetinghe i documented contemporaneously. he contradicts what you re saying. joining me now is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian and punch bowl newste co-founder an msnbc contributor.