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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 12:06:00

keep in mind that a lot of things happened while passive lonely was across council. people were really worried about this. he didn t stop. there were tweets, they were public statements made. there were other lawyers for the president that came out and held press conferences. they said outrageous things about the dominion voting machines. he did not put a stop to those actions. one of the questions, why did he try to stop the things that he did try to stop? one of the things that representative said last night to cnn is that he did not contradict this testimony of other witnesses. i think we did learn a few things. we will be rolling them out in the hearings to come. they added that not contradicting is not the same as confirming. he could say that so-and-so was wrong. he did not say that. there were things that he might not be present for. in some cases, he could not recall them with precision. we are parsing someone s characterization of this. we do not have the transcript. i would

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Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 04:19:00

and he needed to see, this is the toughest, smartest, baddest guy in the room. y in the r oom. instead, he s got a nerd in the chair who is just being kind of horribly slapped around by everybody there. and trump s imagining, i am going to put it all on this guy shoulders and tonight, tonight trump has to wonder, is jeffrey clark my gordon lady? is he going to do five years for me? or is he jeff majority? it s going to be the first one to flip? and when he flips, what does he say? yeah, i think all that is true. the other thing that is bad for trump s, he didn t stop, as lawrence is explaining, because it was illegal. he stopped because it looked like it wouldn t work to steal the election. and he still had something that he still wanted to pull off on the sixth. so, this was not just some random i mean, we cover the night of the election, he was lying election i. that was before the thing was called. but he had a lot more time left than, in his mind. here, if that was on the front

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Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 07:18:00

no he, he s humiliated. he walked into the fbi director s office, assuming he could find it. chris wray rent even give him the time of day. trump needed to see clint eastward sitting in the jeffrey clark chair. and he needed to see, this is the toughest, smartest, baddest guy in the room. instead, he s got a nerd in the chair who is just being kind of horribly slapped around by everybody there. and trump s imagining, i am going to put it all on this guy shoulders and tonight, tonight trump has to wonder, is jeffrey clark my gordon liddy? is he going to do five years for me? or is he jeff majority? it s going to be the first one to flip? and when he flips, what does he say? yeah, i think all that is true. the other thing that is bad for trump s, he didn t stop, as lawrence is explaining, because it was illegal. he stopped because it looked like it wouldn t work to steal the election. and he still had something that he still wanted to pull off on

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Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 00:19:00

horribly slapped around by everybody there. and trump s imagining, i am going to put it all on this guy shoulders and tonight, tonight trump has to wonder, is jeffrey clark my gordon lady? is he going to do five years for me? or is he jeff majority? it s going to be the first one to flip? and when he flips, what does he say? yeah, i think all that is true. the other thing that is bad for trump s, he didn t stop, as lawrence is explaining, because it was illegal. he stopped because it looked like it wouldn t work to steal the election. and he still had something that he still wanted to pull off on the sixth. so, this was not just some random i mean, we cover the night of the election, he was lying election i. that was before the thing was called. but he had a lot more time left than, in his mind. here, if that was on the front pages, if everybody was working from that, and the doj was hollowed out, that was going to interrupt the other thing you want to do on the sixth, which is to

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Transcripts For MSNBCW The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20220624

0 me or met with me virtually every day. the president, throughout all these meetings and telephone conversations, was adamant that he had one and that we were not doing our job. the president said, just say the election is corrupt and leave the rest to me and republican congressman. we will wear that any members of congress had [inaudible] mr. gaetz and mr. brooks mr. gaetz was the first to ask for a pardon. [inaudible] i m sorry. the only reason i know to ask for a pardon is because you think you have committed a crime. the president is getting very agitated and he said, people tell me i should just get rid of both of you and change the leadership, put jeff clarke in, maybe something will finally get done. i thought that it was [inaudible] how does the president even know mr. clark? i said, so suppose i do the, suppose i replace him, replace with [inaudible] jeff clark. what would you do? i said, mr. president, i would rather resign immediately. rachel maddow,

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