from hong kong. sam, from a personality perspective, there s a lot of silicon valley or tech entrepreneurs, who have similar mannerisms to him, dress the way he does. that doesn t mean anything. some are remarkably successful and honest. the issue we ve learned about sam bankman-fried over the last 10-14 days, he comingled funds and arguably stole money from customers. that s not common, even in the crypto world where you have massive bubbles, worth $2 million, are now worth that s pure speculation, but doesn t mean there s fraud being committed. that means people are making powerful investment decisions. this appears to be fraud. the lack of controls at ftx, that s on him, ftx, but on the investors, some of the best investors in the world on ftx, an chose not to ask questions, because they had a fear of missing out. charles: what i m pissed off, the list of folks who took a bite at the apple.