undergraduates. so for those who don t get along with the program it strengthening the hazing loss for accountability at the university level. that such a big part of this. in terms of your son, there s more to this than just being forced to drink. there s too the psychological side of, and income i m out to, i m not included, i m included. and all that pressure that i think social media even exacerbates noel. what do you think about how to fix that? are you optimistic at all that still keeping fraternities, this can go away? as he said, i think we touch those boys. there were these grown men or young men that were reduced to tears that showed they couldn t hold back the emotion.