subway. casey, what can you tell us? 109,000 people. that s the population of this community. a community that s heartbroken tonight in trying to come up with some kind of answers in terms of what would have driven someone to walk into this very busy shopping center this afternoon in the middle of a saturday afternoon, 3:30 or so, broad daylight, and start opening fire. multiple fatalities have been reported though we don t know the exact number just yet. that information we are trying to get nailed down but we can tell you there have been people who have lost their lives this evening. even a few reports that one of those deaths involves a child. so just the unthinkable here as the scene is very much active. they have gone ahead and moved the fire truck that was in the road over here. are you going to reopen this now? this is the main road called chelsea, and this has been shut down totally to traffic for quite some time since this all happened. remember when the call came
lawrence: uvalde was a stain on my state, and the response from law enforcement and the way they conducted it. but this cop was responding to a different call. he heard the gunshot and responded immediately and neutralized the suspect. i think he s a hero. he s a hero. he is a hero. we don t have all the details yet. but the fact that he took such decisive action. a situation like that is the last thing you are thinking about. you are taken out of your mindset and thrust into a completely different mindset, and you have to make sense of it very, very quickly. god forbid you make the wrong choice. you end up shooting a good guy. this is texas, there is no shortage of guns.
perspective can speak from the perspective of it would never happen to them. hawrns lawrence: i come to the e week to do my show. and i lived here for three years. it s new york city so this is part of the experience. do you see that? absolutely. i grew up here. i have been living here my whole life. i don t know anything else but new york. i live close to manhattan. i have seen the bronx and manhattan. with jordan neeley the way he was stating i would rather be in jail than to be in the predicament i am in. some people would hear that and the new yorkers just stay calm. they have this too cool
i think law abiding citizens should carry. particularly when training is not required because it is constitutional carry. getting some training isn t a bad idea to know the laws and know how to defend yourself and others properly within the confines of the law. there are some places that are gun-free zones. they tell law abiding citizens, you better not bring your firearm. but criminals by definition are outside the law. the maximum way to be safe is to arm yourself and know how to use a firearm and support law enforcement. lawrence: congressman, thanks so much tore joining us.
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