he s in brussels at the nato defense minister s meeting. we ll get that on air momentarily. the white house saying there s no u.s. surveillance aircraft in chinese airspace. some careful wording perhaps in that statement from john kirby at the white house despite china s insistence that we have been doing surveillance in their airspace. they said there s been ten balloons in their airspace. that idea was vehemently denied by admiral kirby just moments ago from the white house. despite the fact, remember this navy video. there s this discussion about extra terrestrials, what are these things. i ll take you back to this video that was released in april of 2020. what is that little white floating thing that they called a tic tac at that time. now we go back to these videos. raises a lot of questions about what is up there, what is out there. they see no evidence that these aerial objects are alien or extra terrestrial bodies. meanwhile, communications with china have gone cold f
green laser beams over hawaii last month on january 28th. japanese scientists photographed green laser lights in the sky over hawaii. we now learned that they came from a chinese satellite. they re now thought to have come from that satellite and it happened on the same day the chinese spy balloon crossed in to alaskan airspace january 28th, another example of china s pervasive surveillance campaign over the u.s. the green lights over hawaii weird. thank you, jennifer. so with that, we re glad to bring in former secretary of defense, mark esper. thanks for being with us. good afternoon. martha: the wall street journal headline may say it best. what the hell is going on up there is one of the big quest that everybody is talking about right now. why would it be that we ve had this big shift do you think, from okay, let s wait and watch it go all the way across the country to shoot it down on site.