open and shut obstruction case. you said in terms of heading to prison time and being convicted, he s a, quote, dead man. now you ve read it, every page of the indictment, all these details. just how much trouble do you think trump is? i think he is in an enormous amount of trouble. i think that this indictment is about as carefully structured and evidentiarily supported as any indictment in history. there isn t a single word or phrase or allegation for which they don t have a document or a witness or, in some cases, even the president s own lawyers as a witness. in fact, tim parlatore just moments ago indicated that, notwithstanding discussions that he was having with the government on behalf of the president, he was oblivious to the fact that some of these boxes were being moved. that alone is problematic and
incredibly serious this is. he s potentially facing a lot of time in prison. there s a lot of damning evidence in this indictment, as you well know, erin. according to the department of justice, trump retained documents related to national defense that were classified at the very highest levels, some so sensitive that they required special handling and trump tried to hide these documents from his attorneys as well as from the department of justice. and according to the indictment, trump attempted to persuade trump attorney number one, as he s called in the indictment, to hide and conceal documents from a federal grand jury, and trump and his so-called bodyman and co-conspirator, according to this indictment, misled trump attorney number one by moving boxes that contained documents with classification markings so that trump attorney number one would not be able to find the documents and produce them to a federal grand jury. it s incredible. it almost reads like some sort of novel. i
him in trouble. but it is a tragedy of the highest proportion. and my view that he did not either work out an arrangement or accept an immunity deal. and now he ends up on the trump body pile, which is climbing. so, could he turn on trump and cooperate at this point? and would that give him anything? sure. they just have it all here in black and white. but what would that do? i think that would further strengthen the case. but only marginally because, as you point out, much of what he did is on tape. there are pictures. he took the picture of the five eyes documents that were spread out on the floor and sent it to a colleague. so most of the evidence that he would provide is already accessible to the government. the government eases its own burden in terms of proof by using by having a
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