into the next stage, haven t we? the sanctions are being laid out in front of president putin. in your view, laid out in front of president putin. in yourview, are laid out in front of president putin. in your view, are they strong enough? i putin. in your view, are they strong enough? putin. in your view, are they strong enough? i think it is a aood strong enough? i think it is a good first strong enough? i think it is a good first step strong enough? i think it is a good first step from - strong enough? i think it is a l good first step from president biden and other nato allies. these are far stronger sanctions than putin may have expected after i would say you re really going into eastern ukraine . i think putin probably expected we would spend a few days or weeks arguing about whether this was arguing about whether this was a real invasion all whether it merited a strong response and i think he got his answer today from germany and from the united states in particular. i uni
dog barks. and on the front lines here in zolotar in the east, they ve been getting in some target practice. president putin has his eye on ukraine. the world watching and waiting for his next move. they know all about waiting here. this man has been in the trenches for seven long years, fighting kremlin backed rebels, trying to keep moscow off ukrainian soil. russia is rotten , he tells me. and ukraine must blossom. that s why i m here. i want my wife and my daughter to live in peace and quiet. well, we ve just started hearing some shelling in the last few minutes. the troops here say they have been fighting a long war against russian backed separatists. they know that president putin may
should be or how you deal with that, are there measures, do you think, looking at this in a diplomatic, nonmilitary way, other any extent of sanctions that you think might deter president putin. he says he is not bothered about sanctions but there is quite a long way you could go. but there is quite a long way you could go but there is quite a long way you could go. the short answer is no, you could go. the short answer is no. that you could go. the short answer is no, that sanctions you could go. the short answer is no, that sanctions are - you could go. the short answer is no, that sanctions are not. is no, that sanctions are not going to deter putin. you talked about military, for diplomacy to work it has to be backed by military might or it is going to fail. it is only military strength would have deterred his aggression but we clearly don t have that capacity today or he wouldn t have invaded and taken the brazen action that he has. where does that leave us, then? where does
want us to beat. let me finish, especially after the last question you had, i think it s a dangerous mistake for us to be talking and exaggerating the strength of president putin. i think his paint very weak position, in fact and whatever direction he moves, i think in the long term he loses. think in the long-term he loses. ~ ., ., , loses. what we do see domestically, - loses. what we do see domestically, and - loses. what we do see domestically, and i ml loses. what we do see - domestically, and i m sure you will agree, domestically, and i m sure you willagree, is domestically, and i m sure you will agree, is essentially putin is puppetmaster. every member of his cabinet and the duma is standing. where behind the decisions he takes. he has carte blanche to take the next step as he sees fit? step as he sees fit? well, i don t see step as he sees fit? well, i don t see that step as he sees fit? well, i don t see that as step as he sees fit? well, i don t see that as a - step as
quickly, too many of us. to really think he is surprised at the level of the other sanctions, do you and message whether, whether it is from president putin himself, these sanctions do not touch the sides. they will not deter russia? ~ ., , ., russia? well, i would be a little careful russia? well, i would be a little careful drawing - russia? well, i would be a little careful drawing that i little careful drawing that conclusion. russia has invaded ukraine but let s also be clear, this is about the most pathetic invasion they could have mastered, at least at this point. we do not see yet at least an attack on kyiv, we do not see airstrikes, we do not see direct contact with ukrainian forces. they may do that but until we do see it, i think it is sure to say that our steps and deterrence have no effect whatsoever. i don t